HELP!! (sores on mouth)

[BjornOdinsson]

New baby bearded dragon/ first time owner, he wont eat or drink and has what looks like sores or swelling on the sides of his mouth. Im not sure if it is mouth rot or swelling from him rubbing his face on his water dish.

 

[Sadie]

New baby bearded dragon/ first time owner, he wont eat or drink and has what looks like sores or swelling on the sides of his mouth. Im not sure if it is mouth rot or swelling from him rubbing his face on his water dish.

How long has this been going on I am going to get some more help on this ---- in the meantime can you get a pic of the inside of the mouth --- please --- what are you using for a UVB NO coils please and what are the basking temps and how are you taking them ?

 

[Vic and Mars]

PLEASE see a vet! It sort of looks like he could be holding something in his mouth. Try to open it. What are your temps, what is your lighting, can you post a picture of the enclosure?

 

[BjornOdinsson]

basking Temp is 103*F ambient is 80*F humidity averages around 20% (Naturally). The UVB bulb isn't the coil type (I'm waiting on a 36 inch T5 HO 10.0 bulb and hood should be here wednesday)

 

[BjornOdinsson]

How long has this been going on I am going to get some more help on this ---- in the meantime can you get a pic of the inside of the mouth --- please --- what are you using for a UVB NO coils please and what are the basking temps and how are you taking them ?

Temps are taken with a digital thermometer and the round analog one, UVB is a large bulb it isnt the coil type, but I will be changing to a T5 H0 10.0 hood and bulb when it gets here Wednesday. Do you have a recomendation on how to open his mouth without harming him?

 

[Vic and Mars]

basking Temp is 103*F ambient is 80*F humidity averages around 20% (Naturally). The UVB bulb isn't the coil type (I'm waiting on a 36 inch T5 HO 10.0 bulb and hood should be here wednesday)

Please take out the red bulb. It damages their eyes and stresses them out. They shouldn't need nighttime heating at all unless it gets below 65 degrees. For this you can use a ceramic heat emitter so it's not bright

 

[Vic and Mars]

basking Temp is 103*F ambient is 80*F humidity averages around 20% (Naturally). The UVB bulb isn't the coil type (I'm waiting on a 36 inch T5 HO 10.0 bulb and hood should be here wednesday)

Please use only probes for your temps- what is that substrate?

 

[BjornOdinsson]

Please take out the red bulb. It damages their eyes and stresses them out. They shouldn't need nighttime heating at all unless it gets below 65 degrees. For this you can use a ceramic heat emitter so it's not bright

Ok, i will do that.

 

[Sadie]

Temps are taken with a digital thermometer and the round analog one, UVB is a large bulb it isnt the coil type, but I will be changing to a T5 H0 10.0 hood and bulb when it gets here Wednesday. Do you have a recomendation on how to open his mouth without harming him?

Get a credit card and slide on the side of the mouth even a Q tip would work if the mouth is sore - he should open his mouth - you just want to get him to open it The UVB is what brand and bulb please this is crucial to the dragon --- your screen is what kind fine mesh or a wide hole type---- ??

 

[BjornOdinsson]

Please use only probes for your temps- what is that substrate?

It is sand that came with the enclosure (it was a "Bearded dragon kit")

 

[Sadie]

It is sand that came with the enclosure (it was a "Bearded dragon kit")

Please get rid of the sand and use paper towels for now --- has he been eating the sand and what are you feeding?

 

[Vic and Mars]

It is sand that came with the enclosure (it was a "Bearded dragon kit")

Please take it out he is too young for loose substrate. If you want to use loose substrate again when he's older you can do a few inches of potting soil mixed with play sand

 

[Vic and Mars]

Please take it out he is too young for loose substrate. If you want to use loose substrate again when he's older you can do a few inches of potting soil mixed with play sand

And no fertilizers in the soil. Eco earth with playsand also works

 

[Vic and Mars]

But paper towel or newspaper until he's an adult

 

[Sadie]

I am thinking this is mouth rot -- have you tried washing it off --- you said he keeps trying to wash it off in the water dish? If it is indeed mouth rot your gonna haft to get him into a reptile vet no regular vets --- they wont know what to do --- www.arav.org ---- if your in a small area type in a bigger city zip code -- I am waiting to hear back from a friend thats very experienced w/ this stuff ---

 

[Sadie]

But paper towel or newspaper until he's an adult

paper towels till you get some different substrate --- right now lets focus on the mouth --- he needs to be off that sand --- dragons lick everything when they are little and him on the sand and being fed on the sand will and can cause impaction the paper towels wont do that -- you will haft to watch the crickets if your feeding them and you said hes not eating you may haft to feed w/ syringe til his mouth is better but we need to determine what is going on here

 

[BjornOdinsson]

Get a credit card and slide on the side of the mouth - he should open his mouth - if you rub on it does it seem to hurt him ? The UVB is what brand and bulb please this is crucial to the dragon --- your screen is what kind fine mesh or a wide hole type---- ??

It is Mesh, This is the Bulb https://www.amazon.com/TEKIZOO-Inte...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583520389422974&psc=1

I tried using the credit card but i couldnt get it, But i used a q-tip and tried and the piece came off from the side of his mouth im now thinking it is a scab? ill upload a pic of it on the q-tip.

 

[BjornOdinsson]

Get a credit card and slide on the side of the mouth - he should open his mouth - if you rub on it does it seem to hurt him ? The UVB is what brand and bulb please this is crucial to the dragon --- your screen is what kind fine mesh or a wide hole type---- ??

It is Mesh, This is the Bulb https://www.amazon.com/TEKIZOO-Inte...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583520389422974&psc=1

I tried using the credit card but i couldnt get it, But i used a q-tip and tried and the piece came off from the side of his mouth im now thinking it is a scab? ill upload a pic of it on the q-tip.

How long has this been going on I am going to get some more help on this ---- in the meantime can you get a pic of the inside of the mouth --- please --- what are you using for a UVB NO coils please and what are the basking temps and how are you taking them ?

 

[BjornOdinsson]

Please get rid of the sand and use paper towels for now --- has he been eating the sand and what are you feeding?

I have been feeding milworms and Dubia Roaches and have Horn worms to feed once a week.

 

[BjornOdinsson]

Please take it out he is too young for loose substrate. If you want to use loose substrate again when he's older you can do a few inches of potting soil mixed with play sand

ok, I will take the sand out and use paper towels until he is grown.