Do people in florida not feed roaches?

[Matt]

Hi,

I live in florida and I'm preparing for my first dragon. I know most commercial bug breeders don't ship roaches to Fl. I had a roach colony before when I had a collection of tarantulas many years ago...I'm not a fan of crickets at all, is there other options instead of crickets for a baby dragon?

I know the meal worms have a harder shell and would probably be too big. Are wax worms an option and if they are what is the difficulty in breeding a colony?

thanks!

 

[jessicap]

My little guy loves reptiworms, they are small and have no shell. Not sure about breeding them but I am in Wisconsin so have a roach colony started along with a superworm colony. Using the reptiworms for him now until he gets bigger. Waxworms have a high phosphorus content, silkworms or the phoenix(reptiworms) would be a better choice for everyday eating. Here is a great link to check out : http://www.beautifuldragons.com/Nutrition.htm Gives the nutritional content of different foods. Good Luck!

 

[TheWolfmanTom]

Its been a while , but I believe discoids are legal in florida.

 

[Jp]

Its been a while , but I believe discoids are legal in florida.

Discoids fall under the same law as Dubias, unfortunately, no roaches can b shipped 2 Florida.

 

[Spikeleebd]

yes roaches are illegal due to the fact that almost any kind of species can survive in florida especially it being a tropical roach and florida is tropical they would never have to go in hiding because the temps are just right and with dubias around their would be all kinds of new infestations other than monitors, snakes, and iguanas , oh and also wild bores i feel bad for florida . ohio maybe small but it gets really cold. i use to live in texas and i think that roaches were illegal too

 

[TheWolfmanTom]

Now I have to go digging. I think discoids are native to florida. Dammit Jeff I dont have time for curiosity.....lol
If discoids are native to Florida like I think they can be bred for food. However shipping is its own set of regulations.

 

[Spikeleebd]

lol sorry guess i had to shoot your future feeder dreams down lol

 

[Jp]

Now I have to go digging. I think discoids are native to florida. Dammit Jeff I dont have time for curiosity.....lol
If discoids are native to Florida like I think they can be bred for food. However shipping is its own set of regulations.

They are native 2 Florida & could b collected & colonized but I have read that is illegal as well. Like mentioned above, ANYTHING can thrive hear & does. Not long ago, they found a python that died with a 6 ft. gator inside of it down in the Everglades. Too many species not native 2 Florida are being introduced to the state & it's jacking up the Ecosystem. Unfortunately we don't get a wide selection of feeders in the Sunshine state.

 

[Matt]

Yea, that sucks. Florida does have a lot of invasive species. I was able to get piranhas shipped to my house without issue so I was hoping to find a roach colony, maybe the next herp convention I can find some. Are there any options other than crickets or roaches for a staple food? In another post someone said the phoenix worms, but they are difficult to breed and expensive. Basically if needed I will breed crickets, I can always feed the load ones to my tarantulas...but I would prefer anything over them. Right now I only buy a few dozen a week, sometimes less so there is no need to breed em.

 

[Spikeleebd]

you could try horned worms

 

[Matt]

yea? Are horned worms ok for babies?

 

[Spikeleebd]

yes reptiworms are also and silkworms are a good feeder insect

 

[Spikeleebd]

Jeff you just like it because you feed your baby reptiworms

 

[Jp]

Jeff you just like it because you feed your baby reptiworms

Naah, but I like the idea of getting some Horn Worms.

 

[Matt]

Does someone have a link or more info on those worms?

 

[Spikeleebd]

they have guys that sell the worms on here look in the sell section or post an add on in the wanted section you can always google it

 

[Matt]

Yea I found a seller (georgiacrickets.com) and I did Google them the (hornworms), I wasn't able to find answers to a few question I had though.

1. Are they going to be too big for 5" beardies? I read they get over 2" in few weeks...
2. Is the horn a concern for impaction?

I bought 2 5" sandfire x beardies that will be arriving not this Saturday but next Saturday, I need to find a good staple protein I can culture. I'd prefer roaches but that seems out and I hate crickets but maybe it would be the best option for the dragons.

 

[socalroaches]

I have seen some dubia breeders ship to FL with no problem.

 

[drgnfly2265]

I just seen this thread, lol.

I live in central Florida and I have tried to order any feeder roach that I could when my two were juvies but I found out that they are illegal. If anyone is shipping them then they are doing it against the law. So I used reptiworms as their feeder. I loved using reptiworms. They are soooooo easy

 

[socalroaches]

you know people will be people i suppose but i know for a fact I have seen it somewhere that a big name dubia breeder was shipping to FL as well, just can't remember for the life of me who it was, oh well.