Bleeding from mouth,

[Dennisg]

My 13-year-old bearded dragon Fireball has been not eating and lethargic for about a month, came home from work today and noticed she’s bleeding from the mouth

 

[Sadie]

My 13-year-old bearded dragon Fireball has been not eating and lethargic for about a month, came home from work today and noticed she’s bleeding from the mouth

Thats not good -- please post a pic of the dragon and the mouth --- in the mean time please go over the surface basking temps and how your taking them- what kind of UVB are you using? coil or a long tube fixture and where in the tank is it -- I am going to flag your post to Tracie the vet tech on here and reach out to two more people -
@Drache613

 

[Dennisg]

Thats not good -- please post a pic of the dragon and the mouth --- in the mean time please go over the surface basking temps and how your taking them- what kind of UVB are you using? coil or a long tube fixture and where in the tank is it -- I am going to flag your post to Tracie the vet tech on here and reach out to two more people -
@Drache613

The UVB is a led bulb , UV is 100 watt, they sit on top of the mesh cover

 

[Sadie]

The UVB is a led bulb , UV is 100 watt, they sit on top of the mesh cover

Your uvb needs to be replaced immediately - pick one of these 3 I post - these are good for a 40 + gallon tank
24 " fixture zoo med this will come w/ a 5.0 bulb you will need the bulb I post
https://www.petmountain.com/product/zoo-med-reptisun-t5-ho-high-output-terrarium-hood
22" https://www.petmountain.com/product/zoo-med-reptisun-t5-ho-100-uvb-high-output-bulbs
Or this one can be found at PetSmart you want the 24 watt 12% bulb https://www.petsmart.com/reptile/en...v-b-kit-65058.html?cgid=500114&fmethod=Browse
Or this one 2ft or 24" you will need the reptisun bulb posted above https://hydrobuilder.com/sunblaster-nanotech-t5-ho-fixture-with-6400k-lamp.html
When you get the uvb please post back on here I will help you get it placed for your tank screen determines where it goes - next the basking bulb should be a clear solid bright white bulb that keeps surface basking temps of 95-100 taken w/ a digital probe thermometer-- please try and get a pic of the inside of her mouth

 

[Sadie]

https://www.petmountain.com/product/flukers-basking-bulb-incandescent-reptile-light
This a good basking bulb but you must digital probe thermometers to get your surface basking temps-- another one is exo Terra intense basking bulb or a Arcadia halogen bulb-- what kind of substrate do you have her on? We need to find out what's going on inside the mouth - have you been giving her any water ? If not please drop water on her nose see if she will lick keep dripping it on her nose till she moves away or stops + you may need to syringe feed her but let's see what the inside of her mouth looks like- your dragon is getting sicker and sicker w/ out the proper uvb- and basking light -

 

[Dennisg]

Your uvb needs to be replaced immediately - pick one of these 3 I post - these are good for a 40 + gallon tank
24 " fixture zoo med this will come w/ a 5.0 bulb you will need the bulb I post
https://www.petmountain.com/product/zoo-med-reptisun-t5-ho-high-output-terrarium-hood
22" https://www.petmountain.com/product/zoo-med-reptisun-t5-ho-100-uvb-high-output-bulbs
Or this one can be found at PetSmart you want the 24 watt 12% bulb https://www.petsmart.com/reptile/en...v-b-kit-65058.html?cgid=500114&fmethod=Browse
Or this one 2ft or 24" you will need the reptisun bulb posted above https://hydrobuilder.com/sunblaster-nanotech-t5-ho-fixture-with-6400k-lamp.html
When you get the uvb please post back on here I will help you get it placed for your tank screen determines where it goes - next the basking bulb should be a clear solid bright white bulb that keeps surface basking temps of 95-100 taken w/ a digital probe thermometer-- please try and get a pic of the inside of her mouth

Ok, I will replace the UVB, the owner of Gx3 Reptiles and Exotic Pets in Sacramento recommended the one I’m using,

 

[Sadie]

Ok, I will replace the UVB, the owner of Gx3 Reptiles and Exotic Pets in Sacramento recommended the one I’m using,

LED's are not UVB's --- please post back on here when getting the UVB I still need pics of the inside of the mouth and what are your surface basking temps? How are you getting them

 

[Dennisg]

LED's are not UVB's --- please post back on here when getting the UVB I still need pics of the inside of the mouth and what are your surface basking temps? How are you getting them

Her temps are 85, substrate cutter critter recycled paper

 

[Sadie]

Her temps are 85, substrate cutter critter recycled paper

Temps 85? Is that the surface basking temps or cool side or ?

 

[Sadie]

Temps 85? Is that the surface basking temps or cool side or ?

Still need pics of inside the mouth in order to better help- is her mouth still bleeding

 

[Dennisg]

Her temps are 85, substrate cutter critter recycled paper

 

[Dennisg]

Basking surface

 

[Sadie]

Basking surface

That is not hot enough surface basking temps need to be 95-100 taken w/ digital probe thermometer please get this and your uvb adjusted asap - T 8 needs to be unobstructed no screen directly above the basking decor 6-8 inches- the bulb should not be over 5onths old ---this is critical to your dragons survival - I need Tracie to help w/ this she's a vet tech mod - start administering some raw unfiltered honey- if there is an infection going on it will start to kill it -- have you been giving her water ?
@Drache613

 

[Dennisg]

That is not hot enough surface basking temps need to be 95-100 taken w/ digital probe thermometer please get this and your uvb adjusted asap - T 8 needs to be unobstructed no screen directly above the basking decor 6-8 inches- the bulb should not be over 5onths old ---this is critical to your dragons survival - I need Tracie to help w/ this she's a vet tech mod - start administering some raw unfiltered honey- if there is an infection going on it will start to kill it -- have you been giving her water ?
@Drache613

I gave her water today when I get home from work

 

[Sadie]

I gave her water today when I get home from work

Please adjust what I posted above fixed- she is declining I have flagged Tracie and sent her a pm as well

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

Bless her, it almost looks like she had bitten down on something? Do you know of anything she
could have bitten down on to injure her mouth?
How is it looking today?
For now, to treat the area if you can, get some raw unpasteurized honey to put into her mouth
carefully to help. You can use a swab if possible. She will like the flavor & it is safe. It can help
in case it might get infected.,
She is not eating right now?
Wow, 13 years old, that is great!

Tracie

 

[Sadie]

I was going to ask the same thing what in the tank that is sharp etc that she could of bitten down on? Please post a pic of your tank ---- have you weighed her to see if shes losing weight? Kitchen food scale weigh in grams I am posting a website for a reptile vet in your area - I would get her in and have her looked at please NO enemas if they want a poop sample - they are a hazard so I would take one in
www.arav.org -- there should be a good one in the Sacramento area

 

[Drache613]

Hello,

How is your girl doing today? Were you able to find a vet to get her to I hope?
Please let us know how she is doing.

Tracie

 

[Sadie]

Update on the dragon please

 

[Dennisg]

Hello,

How is your girl doing today? Were you able to find a vet to get her to I hope?
Please let us know how she is doing.

Tracie

Still pretty much the same, temps are good, I’m force feeding with critical care carnivore, link did not expose any vets in my area but I did find one, her appointment is next Tuesday, yesterday when I fed her mouth bled again, still not moving much, still lethargic